و آر ایل:https://www.diners.co.jp/ja/magazine/article/interview/descente/_jcr_content/root/container_copy_copy_/container/container_855226133__1847001549/container_copy/container_1122863304/image.coreimg.jpeg/1662605816672/interview-descente-02.jpeg
و آر ایل:https://www.diners.co.jp/ja/magazine/article/interview/descente.html
